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Post by Spinner on Dec 22, 2006 20:15:03 GMT -5
If you have ANY questions at all about the rp, please ask them here.
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Post by Hpfreakout on Dec 23, 2006 21:00:09 GMT -5
I don't exactly have a question, more of a suggestion. Could you post what vampire and werewolf myths we're basing the characters off of under the RP summary or something? There are a lot of myths. I could pretty much make my character all powerful if I was going by some myths, or practically normal if I was following others.
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Post by Spinner on Dec 23, 2006 21:05:36 GMT -5
I don't exactly have a question, more of a suggestion. Could you post what vampire and werewolf myths we're basing the characters off of under the RP summary or something? There are a lot of myths. I could pretty much make my character all powerful if I was going by some myths, or practically normal if I was following others. I put restrictions on vampires, and I still have to for werewolves. I took things from several myths when I was researching vampires for my NaNo, that way they're not super-characters.
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Post by MayanApocolypse on Dec 23, 2006 21:09:24 GMT -5
Anita Blake vamps are interesting. Same with the werewolves. Look at the White Wolf Requiem and Forsaken ruleset, too. Most of those have the idea that the older, the more powerful. In fact, a neonate is considered to be up to 50 years, and that early on they're fairly weak. Just as a suggestion.
Anyway, how are you running classes? I see threads up for classrooms instead of forums, so I was a little curious.
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Post by Spinner on Dec 23, 2006 21:14:55 GMT -5
Anita Blake vamps are interesting. Same with the werewolves. Look at the White Wolf Requiem and Forsaken ruleset, too. Most of those have the idea that the older, the more powerful. In fact, a neonate is considered to be up to 50 years, and that early on they're fairly weak. Just as a suggestion. Anyway, how are you running classes? I see threads up for classrooms instead of forums, so I was a little curious. I'll look up those myths tomorrow morning, I'm half asleep right now and I won't remember anything I read. Each individual class was going to be run by the teachers the members create. I did threads so that members could create their classroom. If you have a better suggestion, it'd be appreciated.
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Post by MayanApocolypse on Dec 23, 2006 21:29:32 GMT -5
I would guess when the profile is submitted, if it's accepted, then the forum is created for that teacher. Well, if you don't have it up already.
Oh, and another thing. Other than being wizards, and thus more powerful than the students anyway, shouldn't the teachers have a slightly higher power restriction level? Maybe a set limit of what the powers can do, and not the powers themselves. Like a telekinetic can either just lift something small, but have two other powers at about the same level, or can lift a fridge and have no other powers.
Sorry, I do so much tabletop and LARP, these things just sorta pop into my mind.
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Post by Spinner on Dec 23, 2006 21:36:45 GMT -5
I would guess when the profile is submitted, if it's accepted, then the forum is created for that teacher. Well, if you don't have it up already. Oh, and another thing. Other than being wizards, and thus more powerful than the students anyway, shouldn't the teachers have a slightly higher power restriction level? Maybe a set limit of what the powers can do, and not the powers themselves. Like a telekinetic can either just lift something small, but have two other powers at about the same level, or can lift a fridge and have no other powers. Sorry, I do so much tabletop and LARP, these things just sorta pop into my mind. I can create a forum, if you think it's necessary. I'd just have to make everyone check with me before they make a teacher, then all the teacher rpers would be mods. Then there could only be certain positions filled and so forth. I'm not sure. Power, in fantasy, doesn't always increase with age. There are always some younger characters that are more powerful. Not to mention, realistically, powers would have to be able to increase through the entire rp. The teachers wouldn't have more power, so to speak. They'd be better at controlling it which is what this school is for. So far most of the members have been good at having their characters losing their tempers and being highly destructive. ...not that that's a good thing. But I guess you're right that their powers would strengthen. I'm not going to set limits, but I will be sure to put that students can't be more powerful than teachers. If they were, it'd be power-playing/super-character-ish anyway.
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Post by MayanApocolypse on Dec 23, 2006 22:50:41 GMT -5
Sorry. It wasn't that I thought it'd be necessary for a forum, just that it'd be easier. I don't know why the teachers would have to be mods, though. They'd just make new threads in the classroom forum. I don't know about the ProBoards setup, I just sorta arranged it in my head that way, which is why I was curious as to why they were the way they were.
I suppose it's true that power doesn't necessarily increase with age. I was just thinking that someone in control of their power wouldn't necessarily, like with the tele/psychokinesis, you learn to pick up a pebble before you learn to lift a person, or a car.
I'm not quite understanding this line. Is powers increasing a problem or are you saying this is what needs to be done for the rp? ^^; Sorry.
Anyway, I think the problem I'm seeing isn't the power levels as much as being conscious of them. The students are learning to control the outburst of their abilities, and not really the abilities. There's no testing to see what they can or can't do (so far), they're fully conscious of it and are doing it. When you take out the wizarding element, the only difference between the students and the teachers is that the students have outbursts and the teachers don't. The idea in structured rpgs isn't necessarily that they're gaining more powers, but they're discovering more of what they can and can't do. Well, except for certain ones where abilities can be taught.
This is just as an example, but say I have Xander. He's a pyrokinetic and he has speed. Well, for the heck of it, let's toss flight in there. Now he knows he's a little faster than others, but doesn't know how fast he can get. He hasn't test it, and doesn't care to. But flight is really neat, so he's honed it. He has no clue he can control fire. If he continues to focus on flight, he may never learn how fast he can really go, and without an outburst, he won't know he can control fire. One day he gets attacked and there's an ourburst, and the guy gets burnt and runs off. Fire! Cool! He starts ignoring that he can fly, because fire is way cooler. Eventually he's brave enough to try creating a bonfire. His flying could have been better, but he's suffered a bit in that area because he changed his focus. He's completely forgotten about speed. And that'd probably be where he was by the time he graduated school.
That's kinda what I meant by getting more powerful as time went on. I have a hard time explaining without examples, so sorry if that was a little long. I did have a hard time trying to figure out things for Jean-Claude, because the psychic vampirism could be a power, but I saw it more as a learned adaptation for alternate feeding. But then I wondered if this was something that could be taught to vampire students or not.
Oh hey, that's what I kept forgetting to ask! Are there "powers" that could be taught to students? ^^; Sorry, my mind just goes everywhere. Sorry if I've rambled or something doesn't make sense.
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Post by Spinner on Dec 24, 2006 11:03:43 GMT -5
Sorry. It wasn't that I thought it'd be necessary for a forum, just that it'd be easier. I don't know why the teachers would have to be mods, though. They'd just make new threads in the classroom forum. I don't know about the ProBoards setup, I just sorta arranged it in my head that way, which is why I was curious as to why they were the way they were. I thought you meant that you wanted an entire category dedicated to classrooms. If that were the case, the teachers would have to be mods to create the boards. The thing that says 'classrooms' is a board. There are threads for each class inside. I'm sorry, I don't completely understand what you're saying. Because there are so many different ages, I'm not sure how this is possible. I guess I could put restrictions on each age- but some students may be more powerful than others. The power of the powers can increase; the actual powers themselves cannot. Say if they already have 2 they can't develop another. I don't want any super-characters in this. Okay. This is why if the characters have the power they have to take the class. The point of this rp is to take in students that are dangerous in any other setting. The students can't be as powerful as the teachers- but they're still powerful. Imagine having that much power and not being able to control it. Putting restrictions on some of them would defeat the purpose, but I guess certain restrictions are necessary. Vampire traits that the characters aren't aware they have can be taught to be used. Powers in themselves cannot because not every student would have the ability for a specific power. Doing certain things with the power would be taught. (Like when Adrienne turned her wall of fire into a dragon, when Lorayne made a flame dance in her hand, when Adrienne made a fireball. They're both 5th years, so that's why they can do that. 1st years I'm not seeing being able to do that) I hope I answered everything. I think I took most of your suggestions, I just need to update the rp plot now.
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Post by Hpfreakout on Dec 24, 2006 12:22:06 GMT -5
I have like an actual question this time. Should I bring Acacia in as a teacher and is she allowed to teach the made-up self defense class again? What is the limit for the amount of characters you can have?
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Post by Spinner on Dec 24, 2006 13:57:08 GMT -5
I have like an actual question this time. Should I bring Acacia in as a teacher and is she allowed to teach the made-up self defense class again? What is the limit for the amount of characters you can have? 2 students, 1 teacher. You can only have 1 student and 1 teacher, or 1 teacher, or 2 students.
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Post by Hpfreakout on Dec 24, 2006 14:00:56 GMT -5
Thankith. I'll be sure to take advantage of that and play three students. Off to make profiles for them now.
Suggestion for the site: You should have some sort of random, off-topic board on here for us just to spam or do whatever. Randomness is always fun.
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Post by MayanApocolypse on Dec 24, 2006 14:32:56 GMT -5
Okay. I know where the mix-up is. Aside from not knowing how proboards works. I was thinking each class had it's own board, like you mentioned, but you make the boards as people sign up as teachers. That would be the classroom. And then different areas or different lessons would simply be threads created by the member, so they wouldn't have to be mods, you'd just have to make the board available for them to use. Does that make sense? Kinda similar to SS. The teachers wouldn't have to be mods so long as you could make the board as soon as they sign up as a teacher. I just thought it'd be better organized that way, instead of one thread for the classroom itself getting longer and longer and disorganized.
I think we're both missing each other's concept or something. I mean, I understand that they're powerful, but I just thought that there should be something more to it. Like, Xander gets po'd and sets something on fire. That's understandable, and what makes him dangerous. It doesn't necessarily mean that he know how he did it. It's often hard to do something consciously when you've previously only known how to do it subconsciously. For instance, ever had something you did naturally, but once you realized you were doing it you couldn't copy it? I thought these abilities would be fairly similar. Being constrained not necessarily by ability itself, but by thought. Hesitation, fear, doubt... all of those will restrict an ability.
It was actually the principle behind drunken martial arts. Those things are trained into the body, but the normal person will be restricted by thought. Once all inhibitions are released, the person is more likely to act on instinct, and therefore becomes a better fighter. I know many people who can only dance when they've had a few drinks. They're excellent dancers, but they're too self-conscious and have difficulty dancing otherwise because they think too much about the moves.
Does that make sense?
Back to just questions, so psychic vampirism is probably going to be considered a vampiric trait? Or did I misunderstand that? Maybe there should be a listing of traits and skills a vampire or werewolf should have. Or did you update that and I just not notice? ^^;
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Post by Spinner on Dec 24, 2006 15:10:25 GMT -5
Okay. I know where the mix-up is. Aside from not knowing how proboards works. I was thinking each class had it's own board, like you mentioned, but you make the boards as people sign up as teachers. That would be the classroom. And then different areas or different lessons would simply be threads created by the member, so they wouldn't have to be mods, you'd just have to make the board available for them to use. Does that make sense? Kinda similar to SS. The teachers wouldn't have to be mods so long as you could make the board as soon as they sign up as a teacher. I just thought it'd be better organized that way, instead of one thread for the classroom itself getting longer and longer and disorganized. Okay. SS has the categories, forums, then boards, then threads. This has categories, boards, and threads. So I have the board created, then the member with the teacher just creates a thread for their class. Or multiple ones for different lessons, if they wish- but I'd imagine just one would be less confusing. Ah, okay. I get where you're coming from now. I understand that, it makes a lot of sense- but by 5th year (for some of the students) they'd be conscious of their power. So that's why they purposely do things like that. lmao. That was the best explanation I've ever heard. Yeah, it made sense. I'm still in the process of updating it. I've been on and off the computer with christmas and all and I can't stay on long enough to read up and then list all the traits we're using.
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Post by MayanApocolypse on Dec 24, 2006 16:46:56 GMT -5
Okay. I know where the mix-up is. Aside from not knowing how proboards works. I was thinking each class had it's own board, like you mentioned, but you make the boards as people sign up as teachers. That would be the classroom. And then different areas or different lessons would simply be threads created by the member, so they wouldn't have to be mods, you'd just have to make the board available for them to use. Does that make sense? Kinda similar to SS. The teachers wouldn't have to be mods so long as you could make the board as soon as they sign up as a teacher. I just thought it'd be better organized that way, instead of one thread for the classroom itself getting longer and longer and disorganized. Okay. SS has the categories, forums, then boards, then threads. This has categories, boards, and threads. So I have the board created, then the member with the teacher just creates a thread for their class. Or multiple ones for different lessons, if they wish- but I'd imagine just one would be less confusing. Okay. I haven't worked with ProBoards or Invision (much) so I can't see the difference in the admin area. I primarily use SMF. It's free, but you have to use your own server and MySQL database. Easy setup, but just a hosting issue. Alright. I get the 5th year things, I just noticed other students who seemed to have pretty conscious control over powers/abilities, so I was curious. Either that, or I'm the only 1st year. lol Okay. Perfectly understandable. I've got 4 families, myself. So it's not like I'm staying on all day, either. lol I took a look at what you've got up so far and it looks good. Sorry if I've sounded a little pushy, btw. I thought about it last night and realize I may have come off a little strong. Being a storyteller for LARP and playtesting the latest Mage: The Awakening system, it's kinda been my job to think about these things. Or pick out anything that sounds good but could be misused or misconstrued. I'm really just writing stuff down as it comes across my mind, and a good deal of it is for curiosity's sake. Again, sorry if it's seemed pushy or anything.
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Post by Spinner on Dec 24, 2006 20:55:48 GMT -5
Okay. I haven't worked with ProBoards or Invision (much) so I can't see the difference in the admin area. I primarily use SMF. It's free, but you have to use your own server and MySQL database. Easy setup, but just a hosting issue. I've never used SMF, proboards and invisionfree have been the only ones I've ever used. I think you may be the only first year. I don't remember any when the profiles were being submitted, but I could always be mistaken. I don't mind; suggestions are always nice.
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Post by MayanApocolypse on Dec 25, 2006 0:22:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I checked. I am the only first year. Figures.
Anyway, how is this board going to get started? Or when are classes going to start? We just make a post that it'll be starting in a few days or something?
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Post by Spinner on Dec 25, 2006 7:52:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I checked. I am the only first year. Figures. Anyway, how is this board going to get started? Or when are classes going to start? We just make a post that it'll be starting in a few days or something? I thought we may start it like SS that way it doesn't get too confusing- with terms. I guess soon, I was hoping we might get more members, but that's not going to happen.
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Post by MayanApocolypse on Dec 25, 2006 12:47:59 GMT -5
Have you put up an ad in Aragog's Web?
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Post by Hpfreakout on Dec 25, 2006 15:10:37 GMT -5
I posted it in Aragog's Web, but it hasn't been posted yet and I can't remember if I put a link or not...I really hope I was smart enough to but I'm not the brightest person.
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